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Thursday, 07 January 2010

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kmcnutt

As a Christian, I don't believe God is on anyone's side for a war this terrible. If we use the explanation or defense that God allowed war during biblical times, we can also understand that he warned that nation and it was strictly to punish the people of their actions.
As far as the phrase "God Bless America", I think being blessed comes with many faces. Winning the war may not be the blessing God would like to bestow on us. He may bless us with soldiers coming home safely and alive, he may bless us with an end to a war and needed peace, no matter how temporary. Everyone knows of a god. Whether they choose to pray to him, hate him, or question him, he is all over and to say that the christian God is better than Allah is only one's opinion. To say that God was on the Germans side and not the Jews, the Christian's side and not the Muslim's is not loving all and doing as Christ calls.
We are to love one another in brotherly love. It is not biblical to seek revenge or to do as to one as you are done to, but to show the love of Christ through our lives and make the world a better place because we have faith that his will shall be done on earth, as in heaven.

bsn

I feel like people need to be convinced that God is on their side or that these wars are for an actual cause. People need to feel like this because they know what they are doing is wrong and that we should not be in this war but maybe just maybe if "God" is on our side then the its not that bad and what we are doing to innocent people in Iraq is justified. I feel like Christianity has led to the destruction of too many lives and that the people of our nation need to stand for what is moral.

quicktype89

I completely agree with Katie. It's like I said in previous posts, that war is the cause of greed, a sin, and therefore it can't be of God.

As far as comparing "God Bless America" to the Nazi equivalent goes, I found that to be a little too conspiracy theorist.Like Katie said, God's blessing may not be what we expect or hope for, but it is his blessing so I feel that there is nothing wrong with saying, "May God bless America."

Lastly,
In trying to make sense of the teachings of Jesus we must try to change our skewed understandings that have been conditioned by hyper-vigilance and think. We all know and mock the Miss American standard wish for world peace, but shouldn't that be our prerogative as Christians?

Tyler

Here is a thought: people who support war say that it's okay because its for the better of a certain population. What's funny is that most people i've never heard or read about that support the war, also oppose abortion.

The argument for war is "There is a difference in murder and killing." Implying that if you take someone's life with the motive of helping than it is justified. The exact same arguments can be made for Abortion.

Reading this can only make me think to the comment that was made by a speaker at President Obama's church, Rev. Jeremiah Wright. It was automatically shunned, absolutely despised and never given thought. ( http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/DemocraticDebate/story?id=4443788&page=1 )

Why do our belt buckles have God Bless America?

Brandon

I agree with Katie when she says she doesn't believe God is on anyone's side. I do not think God wants this war at all. His name the Prince of Peace contradicts the act of war. We may be fighting for peace but fighting isn't peaceful. I also agree with bsn which says that people need to feel that God and religion is on their side. I believe saying you're fighting for religious reasons somehow justifies their reason for fighting. I think fighting in the war makes American soldiers not believe in God. The soldiers stop believing in God after they see all the horror that goes on. They wonder how can there be a God if he allows it to happen.

David Cook

War is not a product of God's will. It is a product of man believing that they fully understand God's will for themselves. Man is a fallible, error ridden creature. The fact that we have been plagued by war for all of mankind's history is due in part to the fact that we cannot truly comprehend the pacifistic teachings of Christ. He lived in a time where the Jews looked for a Militaristic Messiah and instead Christ came to die and spread his word of peace and harmony to save them spiritually rather than by the blade. There is no way that I could believe that Christ endorsed war, unless there was evidence proving his endorsement.

JohnEvans

This is not a Christian war. It is not an individual Christian or the Christian Church being attacked. If either of those were the case I would have to agree that fighting would not answer. However it is the United States of American that is theoretically in danger. The Christians in the war don't fight for themselves but for the good of all society. This makes the "turn the other cheek" argument void as it would not be your own cheek you are turn but your neighbors. For those who says the war is unjust, it is up to the President and Congress to identify who are enemies are. The majority of soldiers, with the possible exception of those who tortured in places like Guantanamo, are not be given unjust orders. They are simply follow orders to neutralize what they have been told is a threat.

mgn

I don’t understand how anyone country can say that God is on their side. I mean anyone who believes in God knows that God makes and loves all his people equally. God is the father, and like any father of children he cannot look down upon only one and favor them only. Especially when looking at our current situation with Afghanistan a country whose people pray to the same God as we do.

Julie Jackson

This war we are in is not being done for the will of God. God says to love your enemies as yourself. I do not think God would carry a rifle and shoot innocent people. Rather, He would try to make peace. Our God is a God of peace not of killing and hate. To kill someone is to hate. It is sad to think that some people may believe that God wants us to kill. This is a war we are stuck in and do not really have an easy way of getting out of it. It does not make sense to kill for God. We are taught to try to witness not kill.

Larz

I agree with mgn, I can't see how any country can say that God is on their side when fighting a war. God is the prince of peace, and I believe he wants us to make peace rather then war. However, even though no one wants war it is necessary in some cases. But fighting a war or claiming God is on your side and it is his will are two different things. God wants us to all love one another, so I do not agree that it is his will for war.

cdavis17

I think that God doesn't necessarily agree with war, and he doesn't want anyone to kill anyone. He is the only one that can give or take life. I don't necessarily believe that ALL people that are in the war believe that God is for their cause. They are fighting for a cause that they themselves believe in and they are carrying around bibles and praying for their protection, not saying that because they do that that their God supports what they are doing. I know that I pray for safety for my friends that are in the war, not saying that I do not trust God and his will, because he knows when it is peoples time to go. I do agree that God knows what we are thinking and feeling without us having to say anything, and he knows how our life is going, but I do think he wants us to let him know how we think our life is going, and I think that he appreciates the fact that we are taking time out of our life to talk to him, and appreciate his power in asking for help.

Morgan

The picture of Jesus with a rifle basically makes my decision. I can not see Jesus killing someone for any reason. Jesus healed everyone and loves everyone and for him to kill a human being is preposterous. And it is ridiculous when leaders say that God is on their side. Everyone thinks that God is on their side so who is right? God is not supportive of killing millions of his people.

Sarah Thullbery

I disagree with some of the things that John posted. When the United States began the War on Terror, President Bush used religious reasons and invoked God's name many times. Bush consistently put the war in terms of good versus evil. Bias and prejudice against Islam (specifically as a religion that is not Christianity) increased dramatically after 9/11. As it has been said in class, while some denominations have publicly spoken out against the war, other denominations support the war. Religion - both Christianity and Islam - is at the core of this conflict.
Also, it is not simply for the president and Congress to decide who our enemies are. We live in a democracy, and as citizens it is our responsibility to actively engage and take part in our government and what it does. We vote for those who represent us in our government, and so it is our duty to understand the issues and it is the president and Congress' duty to act as public servants and carry out the will of the people.

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